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* When Arthur visits Arkham Asylum hoping to find any records regarding his mother. The clerk comes up with a file detailing how Penny Fleck was found guilty of child endangerment. When the clerk is reading this, he has this [[OhCrap sudden realization that the child in question is in fact all grown up ''and standing right in front of him'']]. Not helping is the fact that Arthur was acting even more erratic than usual, certainly[[SanitySlippage an indication that his sanity has worn from the start of the movie]].

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* When Arthur visits Arkham Asylum hoping to find any records regarding his mother. The clerk comes up with a file detailing how Penny Fleck was found guilty of child endangerment. When the clerk is reading this, he has this [[OhCrap sudden realization that the child in question is in fact all grown up ''and standing right in front of him'']]. Not helping is the fact that Arthur was acting even more erratic than usual, certainly[[SanitySlippage an indication that his sanity has worn from the start of the movie]].


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* At his wits' end, Arthur decides to kill his own mother. What makes it especially horrifying is how he doesn't react in the slightest while he smothers her to death. That stoic look on his face cements psychopathy, and that line he says before he does the deed...
-->'''Arthur''': I used to think that...[[TheChewToy my life was a tragedy.]] But now I realize...''[[StrawNihilist it's a f*cking comedy.]]''

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* At his wits' end, Arthur decides to kill his own mother. What makes it especially horrifying is how he doesn't react in the slightest while he smothers her to death. That stoic look on his face cements psychopathy, and that line he says before he does the deed...
-->'''Arthur''': I used to think that...[[TheChewToy my life was a tragedy.]] But now I realize...''[[StrawNihilist it's a f*cking comedy.]]''


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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnOoIXWBrNE Youtuber Filmento]] argues that even if Arthur killed Sophie, the fact that it isn't shown keeps him sympathetic, but it can also be a effective example of [[NothingIsScarier how leaving some things to the imagination is much more effective than confirming outright]].
* Arthur killing Randall is easily '''the''' most brutal and violent scene in the whole film, and that’s saying something for ''very'' good reasons; he jams a pair of scissors into his jugular vein, ''[[EyeScream then his eye]]'', then proceeds to slam his head against the wall until the blunt force trauma kills him, all while Gary is wailing for him to stop. At least the Wall Street three and maybe Penny could be seen as an AssholeVictim. Randall, however, clearly, comes nowhere near as terrible as them and did not deserve this death. This is when Arthur’s clearly going off the deep end.
** It certainly doesn't help the fact that at that moment, Arthur had his face painted white (looking near-identical to the Joker in the comics) while he had some blood on his face (pictured). It verges on UncannyValley and it's something you would probably see in a nightmare.

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnOoIXWBrNE Youtuber Filmento]] argues that even if Arthur killed Sophie, the fact that it isn't shown keeps him sympathetic, but it can also be a effective example of [[NothingIsScarier how leaving some things to the imagination is much more effective than confirming outright]].
* Arthur killing Randall is easily '''the''' most brutal and violent scene in the whole film, and that’s saying something for ''very'' good reasons; he jams a pair of scissors into his jugular vein, ''[[EyeScream then his eye]]'', then proceeds to slam his head against the wall until the blunt force trauma kills him, all while Gary is wailing for him to stop. At least the Wall Street three and maybe Penny could be seen as an AssholeVictim. Randall, however, clearly, comes nowhere near as terrible as them and did not deserve this death. This is when Arthur’s clearly going off the deep end.
** It certainly doesn't help the fact that at that moment, Arthur had his face painted white (looking near-identical to the Joker in the comics) while he had some blood on his face (pictured). It verges on UncannyValley and it's something you would probably see in a nightmare.


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-->'''Joker''': What do you get...when ''you cross a mentally ill loner, '''with a SOCIETY, that ABANDONS HIM AND TREATS HIM LIKE TRASH?! I'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU GET! YOU GET WHAT YOU f*ckIN' DESERVE!'''''
* The very chilling shot of Arthur finally seeing that the citizens of Gotham do not care for him, but for the persona he accidentally created. His response? [[BecomingTheMask Painting a smile on his face with his blood]], [[ThenLetMeBeEvil all while relishing through tears his rebirth as Joker]].

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-->'''Joker''': What do you get...when ''you cross a mentally ill loner, '''with a SOCIETY, that ABANDONS HIM AND TREATS HIM LIKE TRASH?! I'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU GET! YOU GET WHAT YOU f*ckIN' DESERVE!'''''
* The very chilling shot of Arthur finally seeing that the citizens of Gotham do not care for him, but for the persona he accidentally created. His response? [[BecomingTheMask Painting a smile on his face with his blood]], [[ThenLetMeBeEvil all while relishing through tears his rebirth as Joker]].

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